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Caleb · Sep 14, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Captain Marvel

Ironically, most of these farmer monks are complete drooling morons, save for those who stretch their conceptual muscles to come up with the idea before they are ruthlessly copied.

Please don't cry about personal attacks when you decided to lump half the forum into a group and throw down an AoE insult to us all. The personal attacks in this post started with you, I had no interest in this thread until you decided to call any monk that farms a drooling idiot.

I won't drop to your level of name calling as I believe it is against the forum rules, and if not it certainly is against my personal rules of conduct.

More monk farmers would respond, but the drool has short circuited their keyboards and they have a hard time typing anything but Shou Jin MMMMM on their customized Intellivision gamepad they ported to PC.

Back on topic: Yes UW is still being solo'd. So is the area outside Ascalon city, and all the bosses/mobs in Grenth's Footprint prior to the SF entrance. Believe it or not, there are builds out there that weren't/aren't affected by the changes Anet has made.

djgriggs · Sep 14, 2005, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

STOP THE NERFING!!!!!!

sheesh who cares if someone can solo UW. it does not affect anyone else for crying out loud.

close this whining post forever

I agree,

why is everyone always concerned about how others are playing their game / characters or even what they are doing. Stop your whining it is just a game if you are constantly worrying about what others are doing or how they are playing you obviously are not taking the time to enjoy your game.

I mean did you buy the game so that you could moan and Gripe about what the others were doing within there on space. Can someone not just enjoy what they are doing themselves ( oh wait I guess not due to this thread ) Come on people Just play the game , that is after all what you bought it for right ?

Maybe there should be an age limit on the players of these games due to the whinning factor. ( Sticks and stones people ) You need to enjoy your game be it with your guild, friends or Henchmen and please just leave everyone else to the way that they want to play.

If you do not like it do not play the game I mean it is just a game people. You enjoy playing your way and let others enjoy it theirs. ( These are useless threads, just another way for people to gripe. I am tired of reading or even seeing every other thread that is about nerfing this build or nerfing this monk, or this skill.

Come on can we not stop acting like your in pre school and just learn that not everyone needs to be the same.

The only time that any of thesebuilds ( monk or otherwise) should even come into concern would be maybe with PVP in which none of the builds or skills that people are wanting to or complaining about do very much good.

So please stop these post.

djgriggs · Sep 14, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent

I just wish soloers did more for other people and werent just in it for themselves.

This game would be so much better if the community was self servering, not self righteous.

I have a wa/mo, I do not currently have a solo build but I can solo. and the majority of everything that I get. I give away to lower levels, friends or members of the guild. In no way do I ever keep anything to myslef. I mean it is after all just a game and in being so nothing in the game is worth anything. So in no way am I or anyone else in the game self servering or self righteous.

Everything is ones and zeros, bytes, bites and pixels . hmmmmmm. not think that I can take that home to the family. the game is something for people to relax and enjoy. If you cannot play it for yourself and or enjoy the companionship of guild members or friends then you are missing the point and taking everything way to serious. If you are constantly worried about people soloing anything not to mention UW then once again you are taking everything way to serious. ( IT IS JUST A GAME )

WHO CARES WHO CAN SOLO AND OR WHY THEY DO IT. MAYBE THEY DO NOT LIKE BEING IN GROUPS ALL THE TIME. I KNOW THAT I DO NOT ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO COMMUNICATE. ( Notice that I said Majority not all ) THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF. BUT YOU SEE MY POINT i HOPE.

Mormegil · Sep 14, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by Captain Marvel

So, in other words all these soloers were once idiot Wa/Mo? That include you?

And maybe the decrease in monk solo would not result in a spike of monk population, but there would be a slight increase. And not only that, a general increase in other classes as well, as people who felt the HAD to solo UW to get what they wanted relaize that cooperation is the only way to get what they want now, they can free themselves from the vileness that they had to lower themselves to, emerge back into the fresh and light, and forsake their evil ways.

Not only you totally misunderstood my post and Algren's, which weren't by any means attacks directed to you, but you also made a good number of personal flames for no reason at all. I was going to reply, but you've already been beaten to death, your points destroyed by some random people (with the gift of common sense and reading comprehension) who happened to read your posts.

In my previous post, I split these "solo farmers" in two: 1- the morons with no creativity at all (basically what you said), 2- the monks who are sick of playing with PuGs and won't play with them no matter what.
How you managed to compare me to a "former dumbass W/Mo" (profession I never even played in PvE) is a mystery to me.

Reading comprehension and Valium are your friends.

Orvix Thang · Sep 14, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Teklord

I If no one in this game could afford to offer 100K for an item, would any item ever sell for that much? I think not.

Of course not they would all get sold to the vendors. How can you get it into your heads that farmers do a service to the game. How many people would have Fissure armor if they had to get the ecto's themselves? How many perfect chaos axes or whatever other crap people want would be around if some guy wasn't down in a hole finding this stuff? This is how the world works. Someone wants something and can't make it or get it they pay someone to get it for them. Besides why would farmers want to buy something they can get themselves as a incidental to farming?

The whole thing is moot anyway, this game is young and there is still open market but with time the market will become saturated and the prices will drop until nobody finds that item worth farming, then the prices go back up and the cycle starts anew. As more farmers (competition) come online and the game ages, it will never have the great influx of new players (the customers) like the first few months after launch the prices will never go back as high as they were. If Anet nerfs the drop rate or makes farming an item harder it becomes rarer and then the price will go up, way up, you want that?

Teklord · Sep 14, 2005, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Ectos aside, because they are purchasable from Merchants - I was referring to the massively overpriced so called 'Perfect' items. These items are sold and traded for more gold than the characters are even designed to carry. This is because people have that amount of gold to waste, and nothing else to spend it on. So when they see an item, they offer it all up. I can honestly see it getting so bad that certain items will eventually go for 1,000 PLAT.

Now, how did they get that gold to begin with?

Farming ectos or whatever and adding them (by selling to merchants) to the economy, that is for the greater good of the community and I have no quarrel with that.

ddoogle · Sep 14, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

Doogle, you're just flamebaiting. I'm pretty sure there are rules against that in this forum.

flamebaiting

thats not in the dictionary, please use proper English if you want to be taken seriously.

Orvix Thang · Sep 14, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Ectos aside, because they are purchasable from Merchants - I was referring to the massively overpriced so called 'Perfect' items. These items are sold and traded for more gold than the characters are even designed to carry. This is because people have that amount of gold to waste, and nothing else to spend it on. So when they see an item, they offer it all up. I can honestly see it getting so bad that certain items will eventually go for 1,000 PLAT.

Now, how did they get that gold to begin with?

Farming ectos or whatever and adding them (by selling to merchants) to the economy, that is for the greater good of the community and I have no quarrel with that.

LOL, if you got rid of farmers then there would be no perfect items on the market at any price or those few that turn up during normal play would be so rare they would sell at the highest price the market would bear. Since you are concerned about prices that means more gold than you'll have with your time played because someone always plays more and is able to pay more.

Here's the thing, these types of games always reward those who put in the time, if they didn't then they wouldn't sell and nobody would have a game to play. This game is actually one of the best in that you can get stuff good enough to "beat" the game just by playing. Anything else is a bonus, pay for doing work or a win at the lottery. These are the carrots that make or break a game of this type. If you don't have enough carrots the donkey quits moving and the game dies.

Mormegil · Sep 14, 2005, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

flamebaiting

thats not in the dictionary, please use proper English if you want to be taken seriously.

I think this explains everything about him.

Man, just stop posting. You're strangling yourself with your own hands.

Teklord · Sep 14, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Orvix Thang. You do have a point there in your first paragraph, there would be less of those perfect items as well there would be less gold. Kobiyasha Maru scenario.

I don't buy into your second paragraph though. I do not care about getting rewards based on amount of time played, and I know I'm not alone. I play (and purchase) games for the entertainment value, the story and the fun in playing through it. Same reason while I watch movies.

Algren Cole · Sep 14, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Orvix Thang. You do have a point there in your first paragraph, there would be less of those perfect items as well there would be less gold. Kobiyasha Maru scenario.

I don't buy into your second paragraph though. I do not care about getting rewards based on amount of time played, and I know I'm not alone. I play (and purchase) games for the entertainment value, the story and the fun in playing through it. Same reason while I watch movies.

I'm with you on buying a game for the story...ANet ripped us off.

Sekkira · Sep 14, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Owning a solo monk myself I don't plan on being in a PuG with it. When I was bringing it up, it was specced in healing during the desert and southern shiverpeaks. Countless times I was told by a person in a guild that they could use a good healer like me.

Compliments aside, being in a PuG for FoW or UW as a healer/protection monk doesn't appeal to me as the crap I've seen thrown at them while in groups with my ranger, necromancer and elementalist down those parts. On top of that, these people don't seem to know the basics of aggroing and pulling.

If a healing monk can endure that, they either deserve a standing ovation for being increadibly patient or smacked over the head for being too optimistic and ignorant. Most people solo because they don't want to deal with the crap these people have to offer. They want time out but still want to enjoy the game. They'd rather quit the game than join your PuG.

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

flamebaiting

thats not in the dictionary, please use proper English if you want to be taken seriously.

Learn to use proper grammar when attempting to flame somebody about their english.

Algren Cole · Sep 14, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

They'd rather quit the game than join your PuG.

most important point anyone has made in this thread...I'd rather never play the game again than play with a PUG

Celestial Harmony · Sep 14, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

UW is still being solo`ed

I have three questions :-
So?
And?
what?

Honestly, who gives a s**t if the UW can be solo'ed.

jdwoody · Sep 14, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

flamebaiting

thats not in the dictionary, please use proper English if you want to be taken seriously.

Maybe you just need a new dictionary, google is your friend if you really don't know what it means. It's in most internet jargon dictionaries, if it's not a term it might be in the definition of trolling.